Comments on: The Pursuit of Honeyness http://www.playtah.com/431/the-pursuit-of-honeyness/ Sun, 20 May 2012 01:43:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Playtah http://www.playtah.com/431/the-pursuit-of-honeyness/comment-page-1/#comment-3710 Playtah Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:33:11 +0000 http://www.playtah.com/431/the-pursuit-of-honeyness/#comment-3710 Fran - AMEN. Or as Whitney Houston would say, A to the MEN! Jay - That's why we need to ask humbly, as a country that foolishly ignored wise advise and have now gotten ourselves into a mess that we can't get out of easily. Even now, Bush is stubbornly refusing to sign any bill that would require any type of accountability with war finances or deadlines. It's time for someone else to handle this whole mess. I honestly just wish that Bush and Cheney would do the world a favor and die quickly of natural causes. Preferably in the next few hours. The whole Israel/Palestine issue is admittedly extremely complicated. I don't have any really insightful suggestions...maybe they can have a one-on-one match like David and Goliath. Winner gets the land, and the loser's head. Fran - AMEN. Or as Whitney Houston would say, A to the MEN!

Jay - That’s why we need to ask humbly, as a country that foolishly ignored wise advise and have now gotten ourselves into a mess that we can’t get out of easily. Even now, Bush is stubbornly refusing to sign any bill that would require any type of accountability with war finances or deadlines. It’s time for someone else to handle this whole mess. I honestly just wish that Bush and Cheney would do the world a favor and die quickly of natural causes. Preferably in the next few hours.

The whole Israel/Palestine issue is admittedly extremely complicated. I don’t have any really insightful suggestions…maybe they can have a one-on-one match like David and Goliath. Winner gets the land, and the loser’s head.

]]> By: Jay http://www.playtah.com/431/the-pursuit-of-honeyness/comment-page-1/#comment-3707 Jay Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:31:31 +0000 http://www.playtah.com/431/the-pursuit-of-honeyness/#comment-3707 Wendy -- I'm not too sure what to think about the involvement of other countries; they weren't too keen on helping when we initially went in there (for whatever reasons), so I'm not too sure how willing they'd be to get involved now. But with regard to Israel and Palestine, it seems like most everything I've read indicates the Palestinians don't want "their own country" -- they want Israel. And they want Israel to go away. Not a lot of room for compromise there. I could be wrong about that, though -- again, just from what I've read. Wendy — I’m not too sure what to think about the involvement of other countries; they weren’t too keen on helping when we initially went in there (for whatever reasons), so I’m not too sure how willing they’d be to get involved now.

But with regard to Israel and Palestine, it seems like most everything I’ve read indicates the Palestinians don’t want “their own country” — they want Israel. And they want Israel to go away. Not a lot of room for compromise there. I could be wrong about that, though — again, just from what I’ve read.

]]> By: Fran http://www.playtah.com/431/the-pursuit-of-honeyness/comment-page-1/#comment-3650 Fran Mon, 09 Apr 2007 23:53:44 +0000 http://www.playtah.com/431/the-pursuit-of-honeyness/#comment-3650 For awhile, it seemed much of the neighborhood was with G W Baron and R Hencey, - altho, some always knew the fight for honey was wrong. Then, lies and scandal couldn't be kept underwraps, and 70% of the neighborhood became angry about "staying the course." I think the neighborhood wants reason and honesty. For awhile, it seemed much of the neighborhood was with G W Baron and R Hencey, - altho, some always knew the fight for honey was wrong. Then, lies and scandal couldn’t be kept underwraps, and 70% of the neighborhood became angry about “staying the course.” I think the neighborhood wants reason and honesty.

]]> By: Tommy http://www.playtah.com/431/the-pursuit-of-honeyness/comment-page-1/#comment-3533 Tommy Sat, 07 Apr 2007 08:43:12 +0000 http://www.playtah.com/431/the-pursuit-of-honeyness/#comment-3533 May I have permission to circulate this? I know quite a few others who would LOVE this. May I have permission to circulate this? I know quite a few others who would LOVE this.

]]> By: Woodsy Al http://www.playtah.com/431/the-pursuit-of-honeyness/comment-page-1/#comment-3524 Woodsy Al Sat, 07 Apr 2007 00:47:15 +0000 http://www.playtah.com/431/the-pursuit-of-honeyness/#comment-3524 What if we change the name to Oswald Benjamin Logan and his friend Alvin Hawaziri, who not only want the honey from the great community of bees, but want all Queen bees in all hives around the world to wear little bee berkas, because it fits in with their view of how the hives should be. They think that they can accomplish that by taking apart the bee hive a little at a time with hits from sticks. When the bees take it to the house of O.B.L and sting him and Al Hawaziri enough times so that eventually they succumb, at their own house, I think then O.B.L. would be heard saying with his last breath, virgins bees, more virgin bees. 72 to be exact. I don't know, could happen. What if we change the name to Oswald Benjamin Logan and his friend Alvin Hawaziri, who not only want the honey from the great community of bees, but want all Queen bees in all hives around the world to wear little bee berkas, because it fits in with their view of how the hives should be. They think that they can accomplish that by taking apart the bee hive a little at a time with hits from sticks. When the bees take it to the house of O.B.L and sting him and Al Hawaziri enough times so that eventually they succumb, at their own house, I think then O.B.L. would be heard saying with his last breath, virgins bees, more virgin bees. 72 to be exact. I don’t know, could happen.

]]> By: Jay http://www.playtah.com/431/the-pursuit-of-honeyness/comment-page-1/#comment-3521 Jay Fri, 06 Apr 2007 21:01:11 +0000 http://www.playtah.com/431/the-pursuit-of-honeyness/#comment-3521 I'm sure I'm oversimplifying, but do we then think that if we removed ourselves from the Middle East (militarily and otherwise, whatever other presences we might have there) that the "terrorists" (and I put that in quotes because exactly WHO they are is probably rather difficult to pin down) would leave us be? Or would it require us to no longer offer aid to Israel? Do we not offer aid to any other Middle Eastern countries (Saudi Arabia comes to mind)? I'm truly wondering. What do you (or anyone else who cares to get involved -- I'm equal opportunity when it comes to getting informed) feel we need to do to keep them from feeling the need to pull another stunt like 9/11? I’m sure I’m oversimplifying, but do we then think that if we removed ourselves from the Middle East (militarily and otherwise, whatever other presences we might have there) that the “terrorists” (and I put that in quotes because exactly WHO they are is probably rather difficult to pin down) would leave us be? Or would it require us to no longer offer aid to Israel? Do we not offer aid to any other Middle Eastern countries (Saudi Arabia comes to mind)?

I’m truly wondering. What do you (or anyone else who cares to get involved — I’m equal opportunity when it comes to getting informed) feel we need to do to keep them from feeling the need to pull another stunt like 9/11?

]]> By: Playtah http://www.playtah.com/431/the-pursuit-of-honeyness/comment-page-1/#comment-3520 Playtah Fri, 06 Apr 2007 20:30:44 +0000 http://www.playtah.com/431/the-pursuit-of-honeyness/#comment-3520 dmarks - Ah, yes. The immortal words of Muhamed Abee. Jay - I'm no expert either, so you're in good company. jaybird hit it on the head--think of the honey as oil, and think of the hive as the Middle East (not just Iraq, Iran, etc.) I'm basically saying that the impetus for 9/11 was not because terrorists hate our freedoms. That's what the more hawkish members of government would like us to believe, because it makes us seem like innocent victims (which the civilians certainly were), and makes it look like it is our patriotic duty to fight them. (I'm reminded of the quote by George Bernard Shaw: "When a stupid man is doing something he is ashamed of, he always declares it is his duty.") But it's not our freedoms that have stirred them up to this level. It's a combination of things including defiling their holy lands, using their countries for oil, and other related foreign policy injustices. In a nutshell, our years of abusing the Middle East for our economic and political gain is coming home to roost. And while of course nobody would ever say the terrorist attacks were just, we can say that the past actions of our government have not rendered us blameless in the terrorists' anger. However unfair it may seem, the sins of the fathers have been visited upon the children. jaybird - Thank you! And you hit the nail on the head. dmarks - Ah, yes. The immortal words of Muhamed Abee.

Jay - I’m no expert either, so you’re in good company. jaybird hit it on the head–think of the honey as oil, and think of the hive as the Middle East (not just Iraq, Iran, etc.) I’m basically saying that the impetus for 9/11 was not because terrorists hate our freedoms. That’s what the more hawkish members of government would like us to believe, because it makes us seem like innocent victims (which the civilians certainly were), and makes it look like it is our patriotic duty to fight them. (I’m reminded of the quote by George Bernard Shaw: “When a stupid man is doing something he is ashamed of, he always declares it is his duty.”) But it’s not our freedoms that have stirred them up to this level. It’s a combination of things including defiling their holy lands, using their countries for oil, and other related foreign policy injustices. In a nutshell, our years of abusing the Middle East for our economic and political gain is coming home to roost. And while of course nobody would ever say the terrorist attacks were just, we can say that the past actions of our government have not rendered us blameless in the terrorists’ anger. However unfair it may seem, the sins of the fathers have been visited upon the children.

jaybird - Thank you! And you hit the nail on the head.

]]> By: jaybird http://www.playtah.com/431/the-pursuit-of-honeyness/comment-page-1/#comment-3518 jaybird Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:56:50 +0000 http://www.playtah.com/431/the-pursuit-of-honeyness/#comment-3518 ps. jay, if you look at the whole analogy and think of the honey as Middle-eastern oil, I think you will gain a better appreciation for the story... ps. jay, if you look at the whole analogy and think of the honey as Middle-eastern oil, I think you will gain a better appreciation for the story…

]]> By: jaybird http://www.playtah.com/431/the-pursuit-of-honeyness/comment-page-1/#comment-3517 jaybird Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:53:50 +0000 http://www.playtah.com/431/the-pursuit-of-honeyness/#comment-3517 To paraphrase those Guinness beer guys--BRILLIANT!! To paraphrase those Guinness beer guys–BRILLIANT!!

]]> By: Jay http://www.playtah.com/431/the-pursuit-of-honeyness/comment-page-1/#comment-3512 Jay Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:51:04 +0000 http://www.playtah.com/431/the-pursuit-of-honeyness/#comment-3512 All right ... I'll just come out and ask it. Is the analogy implying we stirred up the individuals or who they represented that attacked us on 9/11? Have we been committing acts that essentially led to this counteraction by them? How are Iran and the 9/11 perpetrators connected? Or am I wrong that the "bees stung us in our own yard" portion refers to 9/11? (Again, I'm obviously clueless. It pains me to say it, but there's no sense in hiding it.) All right … I’ll just come out and ask it. Is the analogy implying we stirred up the individuals or who they represented that attacked us on 9/11? Have we been committing acts that essentially led to this counteraction by them? How are Iran and the 9/11 perpetrators connected? Or am I wrong that the “bees stung us in our own yard” portion refers to 9/11?

(Again, I’m obviously clueless. It pains me to say it, but there’s no sense in hiding it.)

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